Baofeng BF-T3 £6 Walkie Talkies – Setup & Review – Illegal To Use?

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Dark Shadow says:

Nice to see a set of BF bubble packs!

These would be great for getting kids into radio, at a price where it breaks… Who cares. FRS/GMRS bubble packs are huge here in the US… But many of them, even the crap ones have a huge PRICE.

Which is why in my house we use regular Baofengs (UV5R, GT3WP and my kid uses an 888s)…i know I know “They’re not Part 95..yada yada” But they work better than the bubble packs, and at a better price. Of course I am a “responsible” GMRS user (WITH a license) so my radios are programmed only within GMRS frequencies, and output levels. (except the dual banders which are also programmed for MURS (Unlicensed 2W VHF in the US)

But these, at that kind of price would be a great, cheap, legal alternative to using 888s and such.

Good for BF making the effort in this market. Well they do have 2 other radios the GMRSv1 and The MURSv1 which are basically modified uv82s. At TWICE the price.

Rhyddian Lewis says:

why can’t i find your zello channel Lewis.? all i can find is a RMCOMM channel !

Steve Terry says:

Baofeng BF-T3 is available in EU 446PMR, USA FRS 462 MHz, and Chinese 409MHz,
so if you dont specify which version you want, you could get any

UKCBTV says:

The ones I bought and tested are 8ch 446 with CTCSS and DCS – from a UK seller at £11.99.

Roy Rugani Jr says:

Hey, check out your chat area in Facebook…asked ya for some help but prefer it in private chat. No big hurry..just when you get some time. Thanks!!

Steve Jones says:

Pity there not on legal UK frequencies as they would be Handy to try get youngster’s interested in Radio Communications. I imagine it would just be a small tweak for Boefung to make UK versions.

Ronny Karlsson says:

For European use…No problem, just order the PMR 446 version of this bf-t3. Only 8ch but all legal.

fredintheshed1 says:

Its odd they did not tune them to PMR for the UK. Maybe they wanted more channels stored on the radio. Pity because for the price they are a total steal.

David Game says:

Actually… Three of the channels on there falls in the UK Fire Ground frequency range (1, 2 and 4 from what I can make out) and there’s a strong possibility you could be interfering with firefighter to firefighter comms if they happen to be attending an incident near you. This will get you in very VERY deep doo doo.

Relations99 says:

Hey could you do a tutorial about the different values on an antenna analyzer and the difference between it an a VNA?

spig021 says:

Lewis do these decode CTCSS tones in scan mode with tone set to zero, like the Motorola’s? I notice that they have similar call tones & Roger beep to the Motorola’s.

Martin Zero says:

How do record yourself from 1 mile away ?

fajar ni says:

giveaway please :)

Mike Chapman says:

The radios with 22 channels are on the American frequencies, buying radios advertised in the UK with 8 channels are supposed to have the PMR frequency range :/

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Mark Gutteridge says:

Nice ones i got some quite good four money take care mark from loughbrough leicestershire ct2674

Simon Templar says:

Yes, not legal here in Australia either. With eBay I am sure there are many PMR, FRS and GMRS radios in use here though.

Chris Pyves says:

They look ideal for small business like Nursing or Care Homes where staff are all over a building but need to keep in touch with each other. I am surprised Customs & Excise didn’t pick up on this as they are quite hot on things that should not be coming into the country. We got a call from them once saying that they were diverting a shipment to a special warehouse for unpacking. No it wasn’t drugs that they were looking for but ‘beetles’… Well it was in Liverpool!

The Radio Equipment Regulations 2017 SI No. 1206 gives force to the European Commission Radio Equipment Directive (Directive 2014/35/EU) and prescribe the conditions under which radio equipment may be placed on to the market. This came into force on 26th December 2017.

Duty to take action in respect of radio equipment placed on the market which is considered not to be in conformity
15. (1) A manufacturer who considers, or has reason to believe, that radio equipment which they have placed on the market is not in conformity with Part 2, if appropriate, must immediately take the corrective measures necessary to—
(a) bring the radio equipment into conformity,
(b) withdraw the radio equipment, or
(c) recall the radio equipment.

Prohibition on placing on the market radio equipment which is not in conformity
20. An importer must not place radio equipment on the market unless it is in conformity with the essential requirements.

zvpunry says:

9:55 500mW doesn’t mean that the range is low and that it is unlikely to cause interference. It can and will cause interference.

Best advise: Never use illegal transmitters, don’t show on youtube that you have used them and don’t recommend them.

I had more than one perfectly fine contact with 500mW with a distance of > 100km to the repeater. There are nearby repeaters (less than 10km away) that work perfectly well with only 50mW. And if you sit directly below a repeater, even 1mW is enough to have the strongest signal on a repeater.

Of course if you have two handheld radios on the ground with buildings, trees or hills in between, you will experience that the signal gets weak very fast. 500mW in the forest is sometimes not enough to reach someone else, especially without the use of repeaters. This results to wrong conclusions like “it is unlikely to cause interference” or it is “unlikely to get caught”.

Most commercial users use repeaters because this is the only way to get reliable communication over a bigger area. Those repeaters have different receive and transmit frequencies. The users of the illegal radios (probably children) won’t even realize that they cause interference. And if the legitimate user of the frequency is serious about protecting his frequency, he might get professional help and than it is a matter of seconds to get the approximate location and the next thing is a car with a bunch of antennas on the roof searching for the street/house. The children will play with it at home too and not only in the forest.

How fast and easy is direction finding? Commercial users just buy a bunch of direction finders from rohde schwarz, just search on https://www.rohde-schwarz.com for direction finders and read the specs. There are multiple methods of direction finding. One method uses the angle of arrival, they use a lot of antennas arranged in a circle and they use the phase-shift of the signal between the antennas to find the direction. Another method uses the time of arrival, there you have a GPS receiver on the direction finder that provides location information and timing accuracy better than 50ns (1ns = 30cm). The signal that should be located will be received at different times on different receivers, these times will be used to calculate where the source was. This is very precise and can catch interfering signals that are very short (much less then a second). If the interference comes from the same street, they will send a team with a direction finder mounted on a car and handheld direction finders to find the source in the house. The cost of the direction finding and the damage from the interference can be higher than the fine.

Darek80 says:

This radio looks good but I think location of ptt buton isn’t good. I will buy pair for my kids.

Rhyddian Lewis says:

Nope, thats not correct either Lewis.Only RMCOMM comes up

agvulpine says:

Nice thing about U.S. radios is they’re so prolific in other countries that most countries just give up and allow them. That’s how 27 MHz Citizen’s Band (CB) became popular and legalized world round.

Stephen Hynen says:

These were a good price and radio when available, I purchased several sets and gave them away as presents, only £5.50 delivered and 8 channel 446. https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/floureon-m-880-8-channel-twin-walkie-talkies-pair-531-delivered-gearbest-eu-warehouse-2842892

Sam Glaim says:

Given the price of them, they seem quite good and the audio was very respectable at the mile range test. Shame about the frequencies they operate on. 73

agvulpine says:

-Free- Family Radio Service. And yes, they are easy to identify by the 22 channel configuration (fairly unique to FRS-GMRS hybrid radios). You shouldn’t buy these anyway because the U.S. FCC regulation just changed allowing higher power outputs (0.5W to 2W), but new radios haven’t been manufactured and certified yet.

Aeron will i am says:

What frequency do they run on of not 446 ?

Michael Loughlin says:

Seen the video ukcbtv uploaded with similar radios I’m lucky I haven’t fallen for that yet….

BlueCoo MTB says:

CAVEAT EMPTOR : BUYER BEWARE : There are TWO different versions of these radios available. The 22 channel units (as shown in the video) are made for the US market and are NOT legal for use in the UK, If You want to use BF-T3 radios in the UK You need to purchase the 8 channel version that operates on the UK PMR 446 allocated frequencies. :-)

Blocked User says:

Look alot like the Motorola 5950’s they made in China 20+ years ago. The 5950’s had excellent range and were made out of a militairy grade plastic you rarely see today.

Ian Mclaughlin says:

While I love watching your content, I’m a little disappointed in your dismissal of the chance of getting caught. Just because there’s little chance of getting caught doesn’t mean you should break the law. The RF spectrum is a shared resource, and as a licensed amateur radio operator, you should know and respect the importance of operating only on frequencies that you are licensed to operate on. Do you believe that non-amateurs should operate on ham frequencies? There’s little chance they’ll get caught.

Anyway, enough soap-boxing. Other than this little issue, I love your content, and I look forward to more :)

Brad Snyder says:

Not bad looking radios especially for the price. Too bad you can’t legally use them in the UK.

Rhyddian Lewis says:

nice, yes I bought 888’s and they were set to odd frequencies too.After this review that’s another set of radio’s that are going up in price.haha..Nice sound on the test

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